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[stas]

Как и ожидалась, проблема матери-одиночки Кнафо решается вполне рыночными средствами. Но поп-социалисты этого так не оставят, поэтому про дочку мы больше никогда ничего не услышим, зато про бедную маму, которой нечем кормить дочку-рекламную модель, услышим ad nauseam.

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[o-aronius.livejournal.com]

А ты что думал? Рекламные модели, они ведь как лошади породистые: уйму денег надо, чтобы их содержать.А откуда, спрашивается, у матери-одноночки найдуться такие деньги?

[syarzhuk.livejournal.com]

Что-то тут не так. Рекламных моделей кормить не надо. Они же худеют!

[stas]

Дык! А знаете, сколько стоит модная диета для похудания?!

[passing.livejournal.com]

Market forces never solve any problems. A market of wolves and sheep will favor strong wolves and a certain balance of sheep potentially. However market will not make sure that all sheep are alive and well, in fact it depends on some sheep being very dead.
Thats why we as a society choose to control and limit the market - we are mostly sheep and we want to be alive. Whether that is "good" or "bad" is not possible to determine, as it is equivalent to the meaning of life.

[trurle.livejournal.com]

It is extremely rare that somebody agree that he is sheep. But, with sheep brain, anything is possible.

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[passing.livejournal.com]

Whether one agrees or not is irrelevant. However, any large group of sheep can excercise significant force when united. This is exactly what all sorts of minorities and underpriviledged are doing when they proclaim specific rights.

[ziska.livejournal.com]

But when sheep, uregulated in their number by the wolves, eat up all the grass, they die a slow and painful death of starvation (sort of what is beginning to happen in Israeli economy now)

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[passing.livejournal.com]

May be. But thats how life works.

[stas]

Note that you have no passion for the sheep, but only for your anti-market priciples. This is also the common trait of the Israeli Socialists.

[stas]

Market forces never solve any problems.

Опа. И как же мы, бедные, живём...

A market of wolves and sheep will favor strong wolves and a certain balance of sheep potentially.

Рынок есть добровольное заключение контрактов между двумя и более сторонами. Взаимодействие волка и овцы никак не может быть признано добровольным со стороны овцы, а потому примером рынка не является. Следующий.

Thats why we as a society choose to control and limit the market

А. А я думал, потому что кому-то просто сильно хочется за кормушку подержаться. А оказывается, это как всегда "по просьбам трудящихся".

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[passing.livejournal.com]

I have no passion for anyone (with potential exception of myself and people close to me). I simply state the facts. I am not a socialist and i am not Israeli.
The fact of the matter is that these people want something and use all means available to them to achieve it. They may or may not succeed (i am guessing that they will if only partially but that is irrelevant).
It is also completely understandable that you are outraged - in your position what they want diminishes what you (perceive to) have.

I simply stated that your contention that market will somehow resolve their problem is not true. Market does not resolve anyones problem. Market is not meant for that. Now if i would say "i LIKE things working by force" - i'd be a "capitallist"
If i'd say - "i like people getting all they want, screw the market" - i'd be a "sociallist"
But, sadly, i am too smart too subscribe to either theory - as both are trivial and incorrect beginning with their principles.
Do i make myself clear?:)))

[stas]

Working by force is the definition of socialism. Market - and thus capitalism - is based on voluntary contracts. No one can force you to sell or to buy something by the price you do not consider right. On the contrary, in the socialism, all participants are coerced to play by the rules set by a tiny group of bureuacrat controllers. Nobody gets even close to what he wants, but the neighbour doesn't get that either so some people consider it OK - after all, if we don't see it around, we can pretend it never existed.
The market theory is based on the priciple that if a group of reasonable people have some needs and means to resolve them, they may find a satisfactory way to work out the solution to satisfy the needs, without being coerced by external force to chose certain way.

[trurle.livejournal.com]

The problem is that, like wolf in sheep skin, they are asking not for the rights but for privileges.